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Holdham/Franks Family History

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1: 1880 - This is Louisa Burnham again - and Ada Louisa who was born in 1878, she is Granny Franks (Henrietta Elizabeth Franks) sister. Ada was known as Mollie. | 1865 - This is Louisa Burnham, who was born in 1846. She is Granny Franks' mother. Granny Franks (Henrietta Elizabeth (Burnham) was my mom's mother)

2: These are my mother's parents - John Henry Franks, born 1870 and died 1952, and Henrietta Elizabeth (Burnham) Franks, born 1881 and died 1969. He was a chemist and she was a nurse. They met when they were working at the London Hospital, Whitechapel. She was a domestic servant because her father didn't want her to be a nurse, but she persuaded him to let her go and live with her sister, Mollie (Ada Lousa) Wigglesworth, and her husband in London, and then she trained to be a nurse. My grandfather was older than my grandmother. The story is that she didn't find out his real age for a long time.

3: This top two are Henrietta Franks' brother and sister - John Henry Stevenett Franks (Uncle Harry) and on the left, Ada Wigglestworth (Aunty Mollie). Uncle Harry didn't get along with his strict father and he ran away at moved to the States. He was in San Fransisco in 1912 when they had a huge earthquake. Apparently the group photo might have been taken when he was in Vancouver. Don't know which one is Uncle Harry.

5: 1900 Marriage of Charles William Holdham (born 1872) and Annette Silvey (born 1883). These are my dad's parents. I don't know anything about my dad's ancestors except that his father left his mother for another woman during the 1930s. It was a big scandal in those days and I never found out until years later.

6: Top left - my mom. Top right - Aunty Betty on the left and my Mom on the right. Below - that is my mom. | The three photos on the left were taken at Bray, which at that time was a small village on the River Thames in Berkshire.

7: In the larger photo at the top, my mom is holding the flag for Empire Day. She has Ulster on her crown. In the lower photo, she is third from right back row of girls with the big white collar. I don't know anything about that photo of my mom on the other page - the one where she is holding the garland of flowers, She was obviously in some kind of a pageant or concert. | Cormont Road School. Cormont Road is in SE London. That is where my mom lived at the time.

9: 1920 This is Granny and Grandad Franks, my mom's parents. Granny and Grandad lived with us after the war. At some point they had a disagreement and Grandad went to live with Aunty Betty, my Mom's sister, who lived in Sanderstead which was near Purley where we lived. Grandad died in 1952. Granny lived at 18 Meadow Hill until she died in 1969, which was after we moved to Canada.

10: All these photos were taken in the 1930s. The one on the top left is Grandad Franks. So far as I remember, I never saw him without a cigarette in his mouth! The top right is Granny Franks. Then bottom left my mom has written Norah, I assume a friend of Uncle Jack's, then Uncle Jack, my mom's older brother, Granny and Grandad. The house is Granny and Grandad's house "Tokyo" - lots of houses in England still have names rather than numbers. It was in Warwick Road, Pollards Hill, Norbury, South London. So far as I know it was quite a nice area, probably a lot more like the country back then. There are some photos of me later in this album taken in the driveway of Tokyo when I was about two years old.

12: 1930s. Top left she has written on the back "My horse is probably wondering what is on its back". She is on the left in the bottom photo. The other people must be friends of hers.

13: 1930s The photo above was taken in 1937. That is the first sweater she ever knitted! Top right taken in Kynance Cove, Cornwall - that's her at the front. Right - that is her third from the left - probably taken in Devon or Cornwall on holiday.

14: Bottom photo was taken in 1937. My dad is on the right. He worked at Wates. They are still house builders in England. The photo was taken on a Wates outing. | My mom - 1934 - I don't think many women wore pants in those days. | This is my dad in 1938

15: 1938 This is my dad's car. They called her Milly! The bottom photo is my dad on holidays in Austria with a friend. I don't know how many times he went to the Continent on holiday but I do know he had been to Austria, Germany and Hungary.

16: Left - 1938 UDT Dictaphone Room. My mom is fourth from the left, where that black line goes down. This is where she worked.

17: September 16, 1939 The second world war started September 1 and we used to joke that their wedding was the cause of the war! In the left hand photo from left - Granny Holdham (my dad's Mom) Uncle Glyn Thomas (married to Aunty May, my dad's sister) my dad, my mom, Granny Franks and Grandad Franks. In the bottom photo on the right - my dad - looking very prim and proper, my mom, Grandad Franks, Granny Holdham.

18: Uncle Bern and Aunty Betty's wedding - my mom's sister. The other photo - about seven back on the right, the lady in the dark uniform is Aunty Betty. These photos were taken in the early 1940s during the war. Uncle Bern was in the Air Force but he never fought, he had some kind of clerical job. Aunty Betty was in the Wrens - Women's Royal Naval Service. I think she would have had some kind of clerical job as well.

19: 1943 RAF Malta. Uncle Jack, my mom's older brother, is third from the left in the back row. I don't know what he did in the war, but he was obviously stationed in Malta which is an island in the Mediterranean, so I assume he was involved in the defence of Malta. You can find information about the siege of Malta on Wikipedia.

20: The next pages are photos of the family, starting with me. I can't remember all the family details. I do know that Granny and Grandad Franks had a house in Norbury, south London. It was called "Tokyo" . Houses often had names as well as street numbers. My mom and dad owned the house at 18 Dale Road, Purley, at some time before the war because my mom told me that Aunty Betty was living in the house when the bomb fell on the St. Marie's Hotel, further down Dale Road. Apparently the door was blown off the back bedroom, but Aunty Betty was sleeping at the front and she was fine. My mom moved out to Hoddesdon, in Hertfordshire before I was born, because south London was not a safe place to be. I am not sure of the sequence of where we lived during the war. Susan was born in Mayday Hospital, in Thornton Heath, in August 19042, so presumably we were living back at Tokyo then. Why we weren't living in the house in Dale Road, Purley, I don't know. Judy was also born in Mayday Hospital in March 1944. At some point we lived in Compton Dando, in Somerset. I can remember living there. I think maybe it was after Judie was born. I remember Susan and I had matching green herringbone coats and caps. Susan would have been about 2 then. We used to walk to Keynsham. I always picked up a branch and pretended it was a horse. I rode my "horse" while my mom pushed the rickshaw which was a two wheeled stroller for a baby. It had a long handle for pushing. It must have been Judie in the rickshaw but as it was five miles from Compton Dando to Keynsham, perhaps it was Susan in the rickshaw because thats a long way for a two year old to walk. I think we lived in Somerset because my dad working was working near there. Because he was a surveyor he was exempt from fighting in the war. He was working on the Bailey Bridge project which was used in the invasion of France. We were living with a woman called Granny Killen. My mom told me that one day I was walking towards the house and she thought I had my Wellington boots on. But as I got closer, she realized I had been walking been walking in the stream, which was actually an open sewer and I had sewage up to my knees. Don't forget that this was in the country in the early 1940s and underground sewers didn't exist in places like that at that time. I think it must have been my Mom who told me about "Dan, Dan, the lavatory man." I guess he was the man who came to clean out the toilet! My dad used to come and visit quite often because I can remember standing with him at the top of a hill and calling out to make the sound echo on the wall of the building at the bottom of the hill. Then we moved to Bournemouth on the south coast. I think I must have been almost five at that time. I've never been back to Bournemouth since, but I can remember these paths, that we called the snickets that went down the cliffs to the beach. I think we lived in an upstairs maisonette. One day I think some of the aunties came for a visit. I think it must have been David and Juliet that I went for a walk with and they ran away from me. I remembered that it was this huge wood and I panicked because I was on my own. Later on my mom told me that it was a little tiny piece of grass!

21: I can't remember when we moved back to 18 Dale Road, but we were definitely living there in 1946 because Anthea was born in Caterham Hospital. I suppose once the war ended in 1945, it was safe to move back there. The St. Marie's hotel bomb site was on the corner of Dale Road and Olden Lane. We played there all the time. There was just a basement there and lots of rough grass that ran up to the fence along the south side of the railway line from Purley to Kenley. I don't think we had too many rules. We also went up to the woods on Northwood Avenue and made"camps" in the grass between the Hawthorne bushes and spied on people walking up to the slope into the woods at the top. There was a recreation ground the other side of the woods at the top of Higher Drive. I don't think we ever went into the woods but if my dad was with us, we walked through the woods to the "rec". One day, Anthea decided she would take the right hand path and the rest of us went on the left hand path. They both ended up at the rec, but after about three minutes, Anthea started screaming because she was scared and we had to wait while my dad ran back and got her! We didn't go to the nearest school which was Roke, because my mom thought it was a "rough" school, so we took the 197 bus to Kenley and went to Kenley Primary School. M y dad used to walk us to the bus stop because we had to cross the Godstone Road, but we had to cross the road when we got to school and we came back on our own. We got lunch at school, except one day a week we had to take sandwiches. Aunty Betty lived along Valley Road and sometimes we used to go there for lunch. There were often really bad fogs in winter. They were likely smogs caused by all the coal fires. I can remember walking home from school because the buses weren't running. You would step off the kerb and couldn't see the kerb at the other side of the road, but we made it home ok. I think that it is about a mile and a half from Kenley where the school was to Purley. We had various cats and dogs. There was Binnie, the black cat, and then we had Chat, who was all white with a little tabby patch. I must have been learning French because I decided on the name Chat because it's French for cat! We had Fritz, who was a black and tan dachshund. After that we had Tina, a silver dapple dachshund. My mom and dad still had her after we moved to Canada and they were living in Westerham. That was when my mom worked in Caterham and she used to take Tina to doggy daycare.

22: 1941 Studio portrait of me. I must have been about one. | 1943 - this photo was taken in the garden of "Tokyo" my mom's parent's house in Warwick Road, Pollards Hill, South London.

23: Another photo of me in the garden at "Tokyo" - Granny and Grandad Franks' house in south London. | 1943 I think I look about three - might have been taken when we lived in Compton Dando, in Somerset.

24: 1941 These are a some photos of me - taken during the summer of 1941. My mom moved to Hoddesdon, Hertfordshire, before I was born, because of the bombing. | I assume this photo was taken when we were living in Hoddesdon. My dad was working somewhere on the south coast on the Bailey Bridge which was constructed to assist with the invasion of France. It was some kind of portable bridge. You can find out about it on Wikipedia.

25: A couple more photos of my mom with me - I am surprised that she got the studio portrait done as it was during the war. The other photo looks like it was taken in the same place as the photo on the other page - probably when she and I were living in Hoddesdon, Hertfordshire.

26: This photo was taken in August 1942 just after Susan was born | This was taken some time in 1943 - Granny Franks and Susan | I think I was probably three in this photo. | It was probably taken in the garden at "Tokyo". | This was probably taken at "Tokyo" as well | Probably taken when we lived in Compton Dando.

27: This must have been taken in 1945, because Judy looks about a year old and she was born March 8th 1944. So, I was four and Susan was three. I was born January 13th, 1941, Susan August 12th 1942.

28: This is Aunty Betty, Peter, Christine and David. I think the top one must have been taken in about 1949 and the bottom one in around 1950.

29: We went on holidays to Littlehampton quite a few times. All these photos were taken there. | In the photo on the left, that is my mom looking very formal in a suit on the beach!

30: 1947 - at the back of our house - 18 Dale Road, Purley, Surrey. | Susan, me and Judy at Littlehampton. | Taken by me with an ancient camera - Judy, Anthea and Susan. | Me on the beach at Littlehampton.

31: This is my mom and dad on the beach at Littlehampton. My dad always had a car, but we used to take the train on holidays. We always stayed in a guest house on Pier Road, right beside the River Arun. At the time there were rowing boat ferries across the river and we used to take the ferry almost every day and walk to the beach on the other side of the river. The area is called Climping. My mom used to live in Littlehampton when she was a child.

32: When we still lived at 18 Dale Road, my dad studied to become a Chartered Surveyor. He became an Associate of the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors and and Associate of the Auctioneers Institute. Eventually he became a Fellow of both, which is a higher designation, so he had the initials - FRICS, FAI after his name. He was self-employed. He used to inspect houses for Building Societies when people applied for mortgages. He had to make sure the house was worth the money and had no structural problems. At first my mom used to type his reports at home. Later on he had a secretary that did it. He was also qualified to sell houses. At one point he did own an estate agents in Beckenham, Kent, but I don't think he really enjoyed that and did not do it for very long. ------------- All the next photos were taken in the 1950s and 1960s. At the time my dad was in the Lion's Club. At one point he was the President of the Lion's Club for the whole of England. My m om and dad travelled all over the world to Lions' Conventions. He was also a Mason. In those days, the big thing was the Dinner and Dance. Everyone dressed up in their fancy clothes - Dinner Suits (they are called a Tux over here) and evening gowns. Once we got to be about 15, we were allowed to go too.

33: 1950s.

34: This looks like early 1950s.

35: This is (from the left) Phil and Eileen Merritt, my mom was still friendly with Eileen Merritt all her life - my mom and dad and John and Judy Nilsson. John Nilsson was a lawyer. At one point they were very friendly, but John Nilsson joined a big international law firm and they lost touch with one another.

36: Me on the right in both photos. I think the top one was the first dinner and dance Susan and I got to go to!

37: That's my mom, second from right. Taken at the Dog & Fox i- a pub n Wimbledon.

38: 1963 That's my dad on the left and Eileen and Phil Merritt and my mom and Aunty Betty and Uncle Bern on the right.

39: On the left, Uncle Glyn Thomas. He was in a Japanese Prisoner of War camp in Burma during World War 2 - my dad, my mom and Aunty May. They had a hairdresser's shop in Worcester Park and they lived in a flat above the shop. I used to take the bus there to have my hair cut.

41: 1950s This is my mom and dad with Peter and Gladys Bird. They lived near us in Shirley, the other side of Croydon and were my mom and dad's best friends when we were growing up. I think Peter had worked with my dad at Wates. They were lovely people - always joking. Peter was captured by the Germans and spent time in a German Prisoner of War Camp. There is an old movie called The Great Escape where prisoners dug a tunnel to escape from the camp. They spent months at it and the plan was that hundreds would escape. Some did get out but Peter was not amongst the ones that did. I don't know if he was even involved in the plans. My mom was friendly with Gladys until she died.

42: Two more from the 1960s - interesting they both have cigarettes in their hands in the one on the right!!

43: These were obviously taken some years apart but as they were the only coloured ones, I decided to put them together.

44: Uncle Bern - he was Aunty Betty's husband. He worked for Fremlins Brewery and he gave me those elephant trays.

45: My dad at Mike Graybow's office. Mike Graybow was a friend of his. I think he looks like some kind of private eye in this photo!

46: Sept 14, 1963 - My mom, dad and me at Susan and Chris's wedding - I was one of the bridesmaids along with Judy and Anthea | August 12, 1976 - Anthea and Al's wedding. | Rhys, me and Granny Franks at our wedding.

47: September 23, 1967 - Our wedding - Croydon Register Office That's Norman and Pam Hyde beside us - they were the witnesses. My mom in the orange hat and Susan beside her and my dad the other side. Rhys's mom is in the grey outfit with the black collar and his sister, Thelma at the front in the black coat, with her son, Gareth.

48: 1967 We went on a Mediterranean cruise to Greece, Israel, Cyprus and various other island. Chris Turner worked for a Greek ship owner and he won the cruise. As he had spent his life on a ship in the Mediterranean he gave us the cruise. When we got the Athens we went to visit his office and his brother gave us a gift of money which was more than the money we had taken ourselves for the whole trip!

49: Julian with my mom. We went home for a holiday when Julian was one. The others were taken on a later holiday. Bonfire at my mom and dad's house in Westerham. | This photo was taken in Brasted Woods. Brasted is a small village near Westerham.

50: 18 Dale Road, Purley, Surrey. My mom and dad owned the house before the war. We lived here from about 1945 when the war ended, until probably 1955, when we moved to 18 Meadow Hill. At that time, there was an open front porch with a tiled floor. There was also a front garden with a fence. My dad rented a garage a five minute walk away. Nowadays lots of houses use the front garden as a car park.

51: 18 Meadow Hill, Purley, Surrey We moved here when I was about 15. The house was built by Wates, where my dad used to work. Neil Wates and his family lived in the house on the left in the photo. The addition with the windows on the right was a patio with horizontal white fencing with a single garage where the garage is now and a single driveway. The white part of the house was red brick, like the house on the left.

52: The following pages are records from the UK Census Records on line and a website called "Find My Past". The census records are not released for 100 years and the earliest census was in 1841. Before that birth, marriage and death records were kept at the local church. Basically - Holdham/Silvey is my Dad's family Franks/Burnham is my Mom's family. There isn't much about the Franks family. My Grandfather's dad died and his mother married a man called Johnson Copeland. The last handwritten page shows the March 30, 1851 census record for the Copeland family. The seventh name is "Stevenett Franks" - this must be my grandfather, although his name is shown later as John Henry Franks. His son (my grandmother's brother's) name was John Henry Stevenett, which is why I think the Stevenett on that record was my grandfather's dad. They lived in the Parish of Swaton, which is in Lincolnshire. Sometimes the name appears to be spelled "Stevenitt".

66: Henry Burnham, who was my grandmother's father, was a Chelsea Pensioner. You can find out about Chelsea Pensioners on the Internet. The National Archives, in Kew, London has all the army records: Not sure if you can find anything out on-line. He had three medals from various wars. This is what is written on the medals. My cousin, Michael Franks (my Uncle Jack's son), has these medals. We are supposed to get them back but as nobody is in touch with Michael, maybe it will never happen. Details of his medals are on the opposite page. The first two must have been awarded during the Crimean War. The Battle of Sebastopol was apparently the final battle of the Crimean War. There was a Rebellion at Lucknow in India in 1857-58. There is a lot about it on the Internet. \

67: Henry Burnham's Medals 1. Sebastopol H Burnham 1st 1854 2. 2nd Dragoon Guards Crimea 1855 (NI 332) Lucknow 1857-58 3. Long service and good conduct 118 Private H. Burnham 2nd Dragoon Guards.

68: The next four pages are records of everything I could find about Rhys's family. Its hard to do research from here. Susan did lots of our family research in England. I have some information about his mother, Dorothy Lily Maynard. But Rhys doesn't know her mother's maiden name so we are stuck there. His mother's father was Herbert Maynard, born in Cookfield, Sussex. I found a Herbert Maynard born in Cuckfield, Sussex (which is the same place). According to the 1911 census, he was born in 1868, but the 1971 census shows Herbert as being born in 1862, but I think its the right person as people were not too fussy about keeping track of their age, and also the records were handwritten and sometimes not very clear. I also found William Maynard, also of Cuckfield, Sussex in the 1841 census, which is the first census they conducted in England. As to the Williams side of the family, all I could find was a record of Thomas David Williams, who was 7 in 1911. That is Rhys's father. Trying to find his father, Thomas Williams in Wales, where there are thousands of Thomas Williams, is just about impossible unless you had more information.

73: I found this information on the Internet about Gravely Colony, which is where James and Harriatt Maynard lived. James and Harriett were Rhys's great grandparents. American Colony/Gravelye Cottages/ The Colony was a settlement set up by the quaker William Allen to provide allotments/smallholdings at affordable rents in the Lindfield area as there was a lot of poverty and no industry in the area. The cottages had been designed by him and he had set up an Industrial School too.

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